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sented themselves to the eyes of enlightSuch was the motion which he had felt ened Europe, and proved that they could it his duty, under circumstances he be- stand on that whicb was called extension Jieved unprecedented, to introduce to this of territory, as the sole and only ground, Court. He was quite aware of his want not merely of their security and prosperity, of experience to frame a measure that but of the welfare of the Indian popula. would meet, in every way, every possible tion.--(Hear!) On what did their empire objection. But he begged of the Court depend? on what did its welfare stand? to advert to the main points on which he certainly on the feelings of the Indian had addressed them, and to say whether people - who had learned, that it was betthey did not bear out the resolution which ter to be on good terms with us, and to he now submitted to their judgment. He receive our protection, than to be subjected had yet to learn from the Court of Direc. to the predatory schemes and tyrannical tors on what ground that which was a mere sway, of other powets-(Hear, hear 1) corollary of the thanks of 1822 should Fifty years ago, we could not go amongst not be agreed to ? He would not now the native states : but how different was the enter into details of a pecuniary nature, case at present! There was now, amongst but he could state this positively and dis the native powers, a correct understanding tinctly, that the Marquess of Hastings of our objects. They knew that we did had been rewarded to about one-half the not approach them for purposes of aggres extent of the Marquess Wellesley. (Hear, sion; they saw that our benefits were hear!) He had been treated thus neg. commercial benefits—that their interests Jectfully after nine years'active and meri were our interests that their prosperity torious services. The East India Proprie was our prosperity.-(Hear, hear!) They tors had been made rich by the exertions perceived that we were anxious, not to of the Marquess of Hastings; he had extract an immense revenue from them, raised the value of their stock far above but to extend our trade, and enlarge the what it was in the time of the Marquess bounds of our commerce.-(Hear, hear!) Wellesley; and they were now justly With reference to the course which bad called on for a grant of money, as some been pursued by the Earl of Liverpool and reward for the advantages he had conferred Mr. Canning, in proposing thanks to the on them. To use a phrase commonly in- Marquess of Hastings, let not their un. troduced by a facetious friend of his (Mr. willingness to record the wise and liberal Lowndes), whom he did not see in his policy of that Nobleman dishearten the place, they ought to give him “some solid Proprietors. He could not forget the pudding, as well as empty praise.” They influence exercised forty years ago, by the had it in their power to contribute to the great talents of Mr. Burke, devoted as substantial comforts of this nobleman's they were to misrepresent the purposes and life, during the short period which, in the objects of the Company. Let it never be natural course of things, they could hope forgotten, that the Court of Directors of would be allotted to him : they ought that day, in compliance with popular prenot to forego the opportunity. It was judice, resolved, by a majority of one, to their duty to reward one who had enabled recall Mr. Warren Hastings from India; them individually to enrich their families, and never let it be forgotten, that the and who had added greatly to their pride Court of Proprietors, by a majority of and importance as a Company He 450 to 75, deiermined that he should rewould also say, without any feeling of main in his government. They, by their . hostility, that however he might praise firmness, forced the Court of Directors to their cautious conduct with respect to wars rescind their own vote. Now, that they and conquests in India, still he thought had a strong case to support them, let the they should have taken a much higher and Court of Directors act with unanimity and more firm ground than they had done vigour; let them exercise their common during the administration of the Mar sense, in defiance of legislative prejudice. quess of Hastings. He admitted and If they found themselves weak, let thein approved of the cautious manner in which appeal to the Proprietors to stand forward they had conducted themselves, lest they in support of their honour, and that appeal should, seeing that the power which would be promptly answered.-(Hear!) the Legislature had over them was very He attributed nothing wrong to any party great, have fallen under the censure of -he meant nothing improper-in saying those bodies; but he must regret that this; but he might be permitted to obthey had not, during the administration of serve, that he was not speaking out of rule, the Marquess of Hastings, pursued the nor beside the question, when he made open and sincere mode, that of challenging these remarks. One of the most impor. the revision, by the Legislature, of those tant considerations connected with this sentiments which were recorded against subject was, the effect which their conduct them forty years ago. 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, as pel guished their proceedings towards the and to deny that the Company had not be sand on the mos Marquess of Hastings-(after admitting solid and substantial grounds for saying, chris of territut,

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followed)—the consequence would be, that, nently at an end. They possessed the int but of the 13

in the hour of peril

, their efforts would be friendship of all the powers by whom they le coa --Her i listené paralyzed. They would not find, in the were surrounded; there was no possible

common run of men, persons who had reason for supposing that any war would Certainly en te bent such confidence iu their powers as the arise in consequence of aggressions made people -o se bezains Marquess of Hastings bad—they would on us. Might he not say, that the illus

bod few individuals who, like him, could trious character who had effected all this,
rely boldly on their own abilities, and act wielded the power of a magician? His
from their own well-regulated judgment, comprehensive mind at once perceived
in the absence of all instruction. He did the right course, which, under accumulat-
not speak this in opposition to those whose ing difficulties, it was prudent to take

timidity would not allow them to proceed and to that course he had stedfastly ad. u proses inor beyond a certain point. But, in justice to hered Hear! He did not receive

that the Marquess of Hastings, it was fitting support which he deserved; but, indepenthat it should be stated. The history of dent of that, he succeeded gloriously. that great man was not merely connected (Hear!) Let him be put forward as with the history of the Company's armies. the champion of your rights, and his It was also to be found in the submission ample shield will cover you from every of powers whom his policy had won over slanderous and unjust attack. (Hear!) to our interests in the establishment of He (Mr. Kinnaird) was here to listen, friendships

, where hostility had previously without any reference to former squab. prevailed. Most difficult was the situa- bles, to what might be urged against the tion in which the Marquess of Hastings positions he had advanced. He demandhad been placed. He had to contend ed whether India was or was not in a with the prejudices of those who sup state of prosperity greater than had ever ported the system which he found in before been calculated on? He demanded India, when he went out there. He whether that empire was or was not placed helieved he was not wrong in stating, in a state of permanent and perfect tranthat, so far as men could put a clog on quillity ? Was it, he asked, or was it not his proceedings, that clog was put upon true, that the financial resources of their his designs in India. (Hear!) Those Indian territories were greater than they who were in the Government with him, were ever known to haye been at any forwere clogging, instead of assisting him mer period ? (Hear !) Let the Directors in the furtherance of his views.They get up and state whether there was any perhaps acted conscientiously; but such, man amongst them who, in his warmest certainly, was the fact. He however, by and most sanguine dream, ever anticihis great energy, by his extraordinary fore pated that the affairs of India would be sight, by his brilliant talents, and his vas placed on so prosperous a footing. " These rious and extensive knowledge, did bring be facts ;” and, pointing to them, he would to a successful issue every plan which he ask the Proprietors whether they had no deemed it necessary to adopt. (Hear!)

He feeling of gratitude for the Marquess of had not the benefit of those opinions, Hastings, who had raised their stock to evhich it cost the Court of Directors days such a height-who had so enlarged, and nights to form; it was a matter of strengthened, secured, and consolidated cord--they had it in proof—that he had their empire, that, when their Charter ex. - assistance from home that he acted on pired, they would have twice the claim on own peril-the dreadful peril of being the Legislature and

the country than

they sidered wrong in the issue. Having would have had but for his successful

successful, it was the duty of the efforts ? (Hear !) If his policy were conni to come forward and reward his great tinued up to that time—if no unforeseen

merits. (Hear!) He appealed to events interfered with it-they would ourt of Directors, in behalf of their stand, at the expiration of the Charter, posonour and justice, to grant to him sessed of twice the claim which they could ward wbich had been too long otherwise have advanced. (Hear!) Surely 1. Let them retrace their steps, and these were motives that ought to excite Id applaud them as great and high- gratitude, liberality, and generosity.-

Let them say, “ We have (Hear!) He should have thought that the error-we acknowledge that our East-India Company would have been too as perilous- we acknowledge that happy to have washed out in this same dom of the noble Marquess saved us

name of HASTINGS, the stain and blot e were in danger; he was the giant which was recorded in their history for as foremost to extricate us, and to their unworthy conduct towards another up in the face of the world." HASTINGS, who also had served them nobly

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as Governor-General. (Hear!) He should a-year was conferred by this Court on Sir feel himself disgraced, if he suffered this David Ochterlony, for his conduct as an resolution to be defeated by any test short agent in the Nepaul war. There was a of the ballot. He would say, on the other precedent in full; and he hoped the Prohand, “ If there be any charge, of any de- prietors, proceeding qualis ab incepto, scriptior, against the Marquess of Hastings, would still keep up that high character for in the name of all that is just let it be liberality which was proverbial both in brought forward, I say to you, Proprie- India and in this country, by duly appretors, to whom I appeal for the Marquess ciating and fairly rewarding merit, wherof Hastings' justification and reward, let ever they found it. (Hear!) He trusted us hear what the Directors have to state, they would tell the Court of Directors, if they have any thing to state against that that they would zealously support them great man. Let us learn from them what whenever they came forward in defence of the charge is; let us understand from the Company's rights; and that they them why them have not brought it fur- would, on this occasion, exercise their ward; let us put them on their trial too, own judgment, and act in conformity with if, being in possession of an accusation their own well-weighed and deliberate against the Marquess of Hastings, they opinions. He sincerely wished that, for have not taken steps for bringing it to the future, the Executive Body would not issue, and placing the character of the be induced, from misapprehension, to with Noble Marquess fairly before the Proprie- hold from the Company's Government tors and the Public !”. (Hear, hear!) abroad that just confidence which it ougbt That should have been done, for the pur to command. He thought it would not be pose of satisfying all sides and parties; much better for the Company if the and well he knew that the Noble Mar- Proprietors always expressed their sentiquess could fully satisfy them of his high ments, whether they supposed thoce :0 and unblemished honour. (Hear!) No whom they confided the management of course could so well content the public, their affairs, to have acted right or wrong. no proceeding was so just and proper as That would, he conceived, be the wiser that. He (Mr. D. Kinnaird) would not course; although he knew it would be deny that there were floating rumours very unpleasant for gentlemen to vote which attached some vague charge to the against those whom they met on business conduct of the Noble Marquess; but he hourly and daily. Still, however, that treated such anonymous and calumnious Court was as perfectly capable of judging attacks as he did the dung-cart that he met on those subjects as any other body of in the street, and from which he turned

He could not sit down without exaway his head. Every accusation from a

pressing his feelings that the Court of respectable quarter the Marquess of Has Directors ought to bare originated this tings' friends would fearlessly meet, and motion, and he trusted that some one therefore called upon the Directors to among them would condescend to explain state their charges, if they had any. But to the Court of Proprietors why they had was a charge (supposing it could be done, not done so. He now asked for a deci. which was impossible) to be met with sion on this question. The matter could silence? Yet such was the conduct of the rest no longer where it was, and he now Hon. Chairman on a former day. If sis called for the solemn decision of that lence were meant to injure, it was unjust; Court. (Hear, hear!) The Hon. Proif it were adopted as a matter of form prietor concluded by proposing his resolu(and he was bound to believe it was), it tion. was injudicious. As he supposed, the Mr. R. Jackson seconded the motion. Hon. Chairman had acted from a sense of Mr. J. Smith.-Different circumstances, form. He again apologized to him for any and he might say, amongst other motives, hasty expression he might have used; he that of curiosity, had induced him, conregretted that he was led into any warmth: trary to his own judgment and his usual but his feelings were excited, because it practice, to attend the Court on this occasion. appeared to him that there was a culpable He said, truly, that he was influenced by indifference towards the character of the curiosity--because he was extremely cuMarquess of Hastings. His Hon. Friend rious indeed to know the grounds on near him (Mr. Hume) had just observed which his Hon. Friend was prepared to that he (Mr, Kinnaird) had forgotten to contend, that the Court should, under the notice the fact, that the King of England peculiar circumstances of the case, deterhad recorded his approbation of the con mine to vote a large pecuniary reward duct of the Noble Marquess, by rewarding to the Marquess of Hastings. It might him with a title. By doing so, the Mc be a proper appeal to their gratitude-it narch plainly said, “We give the honours, might be that the Noble Marquess had do you give the endowments ;” and such, achieved all those great successes, and poshe hoped, would be the case. (Hear, sessed all those splendid qualities which hear!)

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come to a decision on this subject-and consistently with common sense or comlep precedent in his was

be believed many other gentlemen were in mon prudence, vote for this motion. His prietars , procedentes

exactly the same predicament. He would Hon. Friend had said, he hoped some would stiller opp

not follow his Hon. Friend through the gentleman on the other side of the bar liberality with us you

Jong detail of the various services of the would state broadly and boldly why they India and in this content to

Marquess of Hastings, which was con had not agreed to the proposed motion ; ciating and fazy rent

tained in his speech. He was disposed to that certainly was one way of arriving at

believe that those services had been per the truth, although assuredly it was not bet nuaid ta ei

formed, -that they were of the highest the most advisable mode. It was quite importance to the interests of our Indian evident that those who managed their af. Empire-and that they merited the great- fairs did not join in those eulogiums which est approbation. But, in the course of his Hon. Friend had bestowed on the his speech, his Hon. Friend had adverted career of the Marquess of Hastings : they to certain points which he (Mr. Smith) had their own opinions on the subject considered to be of the utmost importance, whether good or bad he could not say. because they were connected with the cha Now, the business being in this state, he racter of the English nation, which he, thought, before money was moved for, as an Englishman, wished to be preserved that some person ought to move for papers, in the most perfect purity.- (Hear !) His to enable them to trace the history of this Hon, Friend had adverted to the success of Noble Person, and to select proper grounds those wars which were conducted by the on which they could form a just and corMarquess of Hastings, and he had ap rect idea of his merits. (Hear, hear !) plauded, in very ardent language, the This was so evident a conclusion, that be conduct of that Noble Person. It might was surprised no one had, before this, be, and he meant not to dispute it, that moved for the production of such papers. those praises were well deserved by the The Court of Directors, through their Indian Government. But be, for one, correspondence with the Governments confessed that, as there were duties which abroad, must have been possessed of every appeared to him to be paramount to their particular connected with the conduct of the own interest in these transactions, he could late Governor-General; and they must, he not help looking, with a little jealousy, to would maintain, have formed some opinion the wars which were carried on in India— or other, not favourable to the claim now he could not avoid viewing with some made on the part of the Marquess of Hastdegree of apprehension that system of ings by his friends. No doubt a variety conquest, which was to end he knew not of stories had been in circulation relative where. When he heard of those victories, to the Marquess of Hastings; but he he could not help thinking a little of that would say, for one, that he never had heard extraordinary man from whose sway Eu- any story, or any report, that at all rerope had with much difficulty been liberated, flected on the personal honour of that and who justified his conquests on pre- noble individual. (Hear, hear !) He cisely the same principles which were ad- repeated, he never had heard one ; he had vanced in support of the Company's terri- certainly heard of remarkable transactorial aggrandizement. At the same time tions, which were said to have taken place hat he made this observation, he admitted in a particular part of India, and which, Jat those conquests might have been fit in his judgment, required elucidation. d right; and he also admitted, that the Before they proceeded a step farther, they pulation who were thereby added to our ought, in his opinion, to require from ninions, were disciplined in those ci- the Directors some explanation on that zed feelings which, he believed, pre- head. (Hear!). Many of the points to d wherever the influence of the Com- which his Hon. Friend had alluded were extended. But the great difficulty of very great importance, and deserved he experienced at present was this: serious consideration. He had adverted to ad a number of gentlemen, high the ingratitude of the Court of Directors racter and talent, in whom they re to an individual (Mr. Warren Hastings), heir confidence, and by whom their whose statue then stood before them. ere managed; and it certainly was Now he did not exactly see how that aim that those gentlemen had done gentleman's case bore on the question to forfeit that confidence.- (Hear, immediately under consideration. That It was quite evident to him, from extraordinary individual had, he adınitted,

of circumstances, that those in- saved India ; but there were many things s (the Court of Directors), who that might be alleged against him-there

he must iinagine, unquestionably were many sets-off against his merits, judges of the matter, did not par. great as they were ;-(Hear, hear !) -as n the feeling of his Hon. Friend; perhaps there must necessarily be in the they had taken this question into conduct of every Governor-General, be sideration, and they had decided, he whom he might. In fact, it was in the as not either fit or expedient to very nature of man-it was a vain task to .

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seek for perfection. He merely stated his Hon. Friend. He hoped, therefore, that view of the subject, and, if it were erro. they would enable the Proprietors to de neous, he hoped some one would have cide, in some way or other, wbich of the the kindness to set him right. He should two parties--the Court of Directors, or his now, if he were permitted, say a word or Hon. Friend-was in the right? This two relative to his Hon. Friend himself. end would be best attained by the producHis Hon. Friend had referred to language tion of papers—and if no one else would used by him in the moment of irritation, make a motion to that effect, he would. and which he this day explained in the (Cries of move, move.) The Hon. Genmost handsome and gentlemanlike man tleman concluded by proposing—“That

(Hear, hear !) He had heard his there be laid before this Court all such declaration, with very great satisfac papers and documents as may enable this tion; and if his Hon. Friend would Court to decide on any farther claim which allow him to make the remark, he would the Marquess of Hastings may possess on say to him, that he had surplus character the liberality of this Company." enough, from which he could well afford This resolution having been written by to correct and cover any sudden and invo the Clerk, was handed to the Hon. Mover. luntary errors into which the warmth of Mr. Smith again rose (a short pause his feelings might chance to betray him. having intorvened). In making sug(Hear, hear !) And he thought that, so gestion of this kind from his place in that far from degrading himself by stating Court, upon the present occasion, he had what he had done this day, he had added to appeal to the liberality and kindness of greatly to his character. (Hear, hear!) The the Court of Proprietors, as being unCourt, he was convinced, would, in future, prepared with any form of words. (Hear!) listen with additional attention to whats Upon looking at the written motion or ever remarks his Hon. Friend might feel it amendment that had been just hadded to necessary to address to them. (Hear!) He him by the clerk, he hoped the Court was not disposed to make the motion to would allow him to put it in rather a diffewhich he had alluded, but he hoped some rent form.-- (Hear, hear, and cries of other proprietor would undertake the move !) task. He thought a motion should be The Chairman.--"1 merely sent it to made for “ all such papers and documents Mr. Smith as it was taken down, and in as might enable the Court to form an order that he might look at it, to see wheopinion of the merits and services of the ther or no it was correct.” Marquess of Hastings." He thought they Mr. Smith said it had been just intinever could come to satisfactory con mated to him, and he supposed the stateclusion without those documents ; there. ment was perfectly true, that the Court fore, without denying the services of the of Directors had, on various' occasions, noble Marquess,- believing that he had expressed and recorded their approbation of achieved very important services in India the conduct of the Marquess of Hastings. -but, at the same time, desirous that What he (Mr. Smith) wanted, however, as certain transactions which had reached his an individual proprietor, though he doubted ears should be cleared up,- he thought it not that such was equally the wiah of the was expedient that those documents should general body, was, to have some explanabe laid before the Court. He was anxious tion of those transactions in India which that the Hydrabad affair, which was said had recently occasioned so many rumours, to have been a very disgraceful one, should and which must, more or less, have met be explained. He had heard of it in a the eyes or ears of every person in the vague way ; and he had also heard, from Court. If the Court of Proprietors authority which he highly respected—the thought it proper, he should introduce into authority of one of the most liberal, well the amendment the names of certain parinformed, and enlightened of his friends ties connected with those reports; and he tbat the whole was erroneous—that it was therefore took the liberty to move, in this a mere delusioni--and that, when exa altered form," That there be laid before mined, it would appear that the reports " this Court all such papers and docuwhich were in circulation were utterly “ments, respecting the loans made by without foundation. This might, and, he “ Palmer and Co. of Hyderabad, to his believed, was so ; but, nevertheless, those “ Highness the Nizam, as may enable this reports ought to be met by an explicit “ Court to decide on the merits of any contradiction. Under the circumstances in “ claim which the Marquess of Hastings which the Court of Proprietors at present may have on the further liberality of the stood, the Directors would be wanting in “ Company."-(Hear, lear!) respect to themselves, and to the Pro Mr. Poynder begged leave to second prietors, in a most extraordinary degree, this amendment, under the impression that if they did not grant those papers; be it would meet the object which he was sure cause, looking to their conduct for some so many Hon. Proprietors must entertain time back, he did believe that the Execu in common with himself; namely that tive Body differed in toto from the state. they should be better informed upon a subment and the feeling evinced by his ject of such magnitude as that now before

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