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the Court. They were met to-day to ex of India ; still he thought the Hon. Gentleercise a very important prerogative, and man had not made out that case, at present, should be careful of the manner in which so as to enable the Court of Proprietors to they were so to exercise it, as the exertion act towards the Noble Marquess as they of that prerogative, in the way originally could wish to do. (Hear!) With resproposed, did involve an implied, if not pect to those votes of thanks which had a direct censure by their body, upon the been tendered to the Marquis of Hastings Court of Directors. In the hope, there at different times, by Parliament, by the fore, that the amendment was calculated to Court of Directors sanctioned by the meet the object which he was sure both Board of Controul, and indeed by the they and this Court must have in view, he whole country, it was true it has been begged leave to second it. (Hear !) He stated, that they were well merited, and had no doubt that the Hon. Proprietors had been formally given. But the Court who sate around him must have partici- of Proprietors, on the present occasion, pated in all those sentiments which had could not shut their eyes and ears to what been so ably expressed by the worthy Pro was going on, at least within the Court; prietor who first addressed the Court. For they must see that considerable differences his own part, he would confess that he of sentiment existed among honourable shared them in no common degree. There gentlemen on the other side of the barwere undoubtedly a variety of rumours (the Directors).—(Hear!) Undoubtedly abroad, to which he should not even it was essential to them (the Court), as a advert, (Hear!) and in this respect, Proprietary, that they should be immediin the practice of this caution, -- the ately put in possession of some other and Hon. Gentleman had shewn his wisdom. more authentic information on the matters (Hear!) In that wisdom he (Mr. Poyn now before the Court, than they at present der) should endeavour to imitate him : had ; he therefore apprehended it to be observing, by the way, that the whole con competent to any Proprietor - and he duct of the Hon. Proprietor in the Court should himself have made the same sort of this day had been most manly and be appeal to the Court to-day, had he not coming. He joined the Hon. Proprietor been anticipated by the Honourable Prowho last addressed the Court, in all the prietor (Mr. Smith),—to ask for such furcommendations that had been bestowed, or ther papers and documents, as might elu. that so humble an individual as himself cidate any transaction into which the could bestow, upon that particular part of Court should deem it advisable to make the Hon. Member's address, in which that any inquiry, before they came to their gentleman (Mr. Kinnaird) so handsomely final determination in respect of the Maradverted to what had fallen from bim on a quess of Hastings. And this he should former day.—Hear!) In their appro have done, acting upon that apothegm of bation of such conduct and such acknow Lord Bacon, porudens interrogatio dimiledgments, every one who heard him must “ dium scientiæ.” To be sure it might be cordially concur. At the same time, in objected, that there was not perhaps much his (Mr. Poynder’s) opinion, so strong a of prudence in the questions to be asked ; censure would be conveyed upon the Di. (a laugh), but for the reasons that had rectors themselves (after what had taken been stated, he repeated that he with great place), if some arrangement calculated to pleasure seconded the amendinent. meet the difficulties that surrounded this (Hear!) question were not prepared, that he was The Chairman observed, it now became satisfied the Court of Proprietors, before his duty to put the question " that the they could come to any decision on such “ words originally proposed do stand part a subject, would deem it fit to entertain “ of the question.” Before he proceeded the proposition that had just been sub to take the sense of the Court upon it, he mitted to them. (Hear!) The address would state, that it was not from any want which they had heard that morning from of attention to the Hon. Proprietor (Mr. the Hon. Gentleman was certainly very Kinnaird) that he had not before risen, to able ; but it met only a part of this mo pay his tribute of praise to those feelings Inentous case. To that Hon. Gentleman of

regret which had been expressed that (Mr. Smith) he was very far indeed from day by the Hon. Proprietor, with respect imputing any thing like designing by his to any thing of a nature disrespectful to motion, a "suppressin veri ;a figure, as the Court of Directors, that might have the logicians very well knew, that bor fallen from him on a former occasion. dered closely upon the “ suggestio falsi,(Hear, hear!) The expressions alluded to At the same time, while the original motion the Hon. Proprietor had, in the most homet one object, it lost sight of another ; nourable and handsome manner, explainand though he (Mr. Poynder) went the ed: and he (the Chairman) agreed with full length of the Hon. Gentleman's pro another Hon. Proprietor (Mr. John Smith) position as to the gratitude which the Court that such conduct was no more than might must feel to the Marquoss of Hastings for have been expected from a gentleman of his merits and capacity in the government hiis (Mr. Kinnaird's) character and rarik in Asiatic Journ.-No. 100,

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society.- (H!ear). He was however confi with respect to his silence on that day; be
dent that the Court of Directors would might, when called upon by the Gallant
feel with him, that, in the instance he ad General, have immediately referred to the
verted to, nothing had fallen from that Court's recorded decision as communicated
Hon. Proprietor but what might be al to Colonel Doyle; but had be done so, B
tributed to his over zeal in the cause of a the Gallant General did not bring that
friend ; and here he begged to drop the circumstance before the Court, he would
subject.-(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Pro- have rendered himself liable to be charged
prietor, in alluding to the silence of the with a voluntary publication prejudicial to
chair upon that occasion, had said, that he the character of the Noble Marquess, by
thought the Chairman was such con communicating that the Court of Direc-
duct only giving sanction and currency to tors bad declined to answer the questions
the rumours that were afloat, of a nature put to them by his friend. -(Hear, hear!)
prejudicial to the character of the Mar An Hon, Proprietor smiled at this; but if
quess of Hastings. If such had been the he thought that he (the Chairman) had
case, no one more regretted the circum done wiong, he hoped that Hon. Propri-
stance than himself. But the fact was, etor would attribute his failing to an error
that he (the Chairman), when those ques- in judgment, and to that alone. (Hear!)
tions were propounded to him, felt himself Mr. Hume felt quite sure that his
under a considerable difficulty, owing, he Honourable Friend (Mr. J. Smitb), who
must say, to the want of courtesy that ap had moved an amendment, could not be
peared on the part of the Gallant General, master of the proceedings which had
whom he saw in Court. (Hear, from Sir already taken place in relation to the sub-
John Doyle.) Of that want of courtesy ject before the Court; (Hear!) for if bis
he was liowever satisfied that the Gallant Honourable Friend had been possessed of
General was not himself aware at the time, them, he would certainly have altogether
or he would, as was usual, have commu altered his mode of proceeding (Hear.
nicated his questions to the Chairman be In the first place, he would ask his Ho-
fore the meeting of the Court. The Gal- nourable Friend 'why he bad felt himself
lant General not having so done, he con- entitled to say, that there was at present
sidered his questions to be in substance a nothing before the Court of Proprietors to
continuation of the correspondence which warrant them in taking into consideration
had passed between the Hon. Baronet's the conduct of the Marquess of Hastings?
gallant relative Colonel Doyle, whose (Hear.) He (Mr. Hume) was quite satis-
friendship for the Noble Marquess was well fied that his Honourable Friend could not
known, and the Court; he must however have been present when the proceedings of
observe, that as the Court of Directors the General Court were read; —had he
had thought it expedient not to answer been, he never would have made the stale-
those queries, he could not, as their ment which he had that morning advanced;
Chairman, state more or less than what and of this fact he thought he should be
they had previously determined.—(Hear, able to convince his Honourable Friend
hear, hear!) If any Hon. Proprietor before he sat down. It was not necessary,
thought that the Court of Directors had after the great detail in which an Honour-
acted erroneously in the view which they able Proprietor (Mr. Kinnaird) had in-
had taken of the matter, he (the Chair- troduced this question, for him (Mr.
man) should be ready to take his full Hume) to occupy their time by going
share of their responsibility. (Hear.) He through the same documents again : he
was yet to learn (and in saying this he would not, therefore, notice otherwise
was not alluding to any particular case, than in passing, the resolutions which had
but was speaking with reference to general. been passed in the year 1817. There
principles) how the Court of Directors on Were, since that year, two separate distinct
that occasion, with any regard to equity, votes of thanks to the Marquess of His-
or with respect to the system upon which tings agreed to At that period, it would
the affairs of the East India Company be remembered, very considerable discus
were conducted, could do either more or sions took place in that Court in respect
less than they had done on the occasion ? of them; and though he himself was one
(Hear !) Let the Court of Proprietors who did not concur in the manner in which
consider the peculiar situation in which those votes were framed, for reasons
the Directors were placed : - If they which he then assigned, (for be complais-
answered the questions then put to him ed that they thanked the Marquess solely
by the Noble Marquess's friend, they for his military achievements

, without of necessity laid themselves open to doing justice to his greater and more the liability of being called upon to valuable civil services as a statesman and a answer every question that might be ad governor ;) -- yet t Elose thanks were the redressed to them in a similar way, by any sult of a deliberate vote of the Court of individual who might have business under Proprietors, sanctioned by the Court of the Court's consideration, He felt it Directors (Hear, hear!); and therefore necessary to make another observation he had a right to take the approbation

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which those thanks conveyed, as the opinion the papers which were now asked for. And of the Proprietors. This vote was follow he thought the speech of the Chairman, ed up by a vote of the Court of Proprie upon the occasion he was speaking of, it tors in 1819; and that, again, was suc might be important to call the Court's atceeded by a vote of money, in confirma tention to. The Chairman said " The tion of the different votes of thanks. He business which the Proprietors were asnow came to the period at which the Noble sembled to consider was one that required Marquess was to relinquish the government but very little introduction on his part; of India. And here he would say, that the merits of the Noble Person, whom they he was morally certain there was no man had that day met to thank, were ac. in that Court, nay in all England, who knowledged on all hands to be of the was at all times more conscientiously most exalted and signal character, and anxious to do justice to all, than his Ho therefore he was persuaded that the Court nourable Friend (Mr. J. Smith); and yet of Proprietors would concur in the debefore he (Mr. Hume) concluded, he liberate sentiments which the Court of hoped to satisfy both him and the Court Directors had recorded of those merits. It that an act of greater injustice (Ileur, hear) was usual on these occasions to state to was never attempted to be committed, than the Proprietors the prelininary vote to the amendment proposed by his Honour. which the Court of Directors had agreed, able Friend would go to effect.-(Hear.) and it sometimes happened that that vote Now to come to the papers and records was proposed to the Court of Proprietors that were before the Court. Upon the for their adoption ; but that course would 29th of May 1822, there appeared a reso not now be taken, as it was considered tion to the following effect : “ At a Court more gratifying to the Proprietors them" of Directors, held, &c. on the 29th selves, as well as more complimentary “ May 1822,- Resolved Unanimously.” to the noble individual in question, to --(Let it be recollected, that this was the leave it entirely to the Court to take such resolution of a Court of Directors, not of steps as might appear best calculated to Proprietors, and therefore it was particu- attain the object they all had in view, larly in point upon the present occasion :) The object of the vote which the Court " That this Court, bighly appreciating of Directors had come to, was not to praise " the signal merits and services of the Most any particular act of this noble person's “ Noblo the Marquess of Hastings, Knight administration”“ of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, Then, he would ask, why should his " and Knight Grand Cross of the Most Honourable Friend (Mr. J. Smith), or any “ Honourable Military Order of the Bath, other Honourable Proprietor, move for " and Governor-General of India, are papers, at present, that had a reference to “ anxious to place on the records of the one particular act," and one act only, of * East-India Company their expression the Noble Marquess's long administration ? “ of deep regret that family circumstances (Hear, hear). If it was the wish of the “ have led to a declaration on the part of Court, as he presumed it was, to take a “ that distinguished Nobleman of his wish general view of the whole public conduct " to be relieved from the duties of his ex of the Marquess of Hastings in India, “ alted station.”

why did his Hon. Friend move for docu“And the Court, being desirous that the ments that related only to one specific, :

sepse they entertain of the conduct and isolated act? (Hear). He (Mr. Hume) • services of the Marquess of Hastings would tell the Court, before he concluded. “ should be promulgated previously to his The speech went on,-“ But to place on "departure for Europe”-undoubtedly, the records of the Company their opinion this was in order that it might be of his general conduct during a period known in India, before the Marquess

On that account they had should leave it, in what manner his not deemed it necessary to produce any great services were looked upon by his papers; for the history of the Noble masters in Europe),-““ bave further, Re. Marquess, was to be found in every docu“ solved unanimously, that the thanks ment which had been transmitted from of this Court be given to the Most

India for several years past.” “ Noble the Marquess of Hastings,

But he would not further tire the Court “ K. G. and G. C. B., for the unre with these quotations and testimonials, ex" mitting zcal and eminent ability with cept that he would just state thus much : " wbich, during a period of nearly nine that after this last period, there seemed to

years, he has administered the Govern have been but one unanimous opinion " ment of British India, with such high among the Directors and Proprietors upon “ credit to himself, and advantage to the subject of the Noble Marquess's services " the interests of the East-India Com and merits ; it was therefore most im

portant that, if any thing had since ocNow the Court of Directors were, as curred to affect that question, that there le (Mr. Hume) believed, fully sensible should be laid, and indeed it was the duty that they might be challenged to produce of the Court of Directors to lay before

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this Court, a statement of all such pro time, should be laid before the Court; and ceedings as might have tended to induce his Hon. Friend expressed his intention of that alteration of opinion. (Hear, hear). moving accordingly. He (Mr. Hume) Then why, it might be asked, had his had further observed, that if his Bol Hon. Friend (Mr. Kinnaird) moved for Friend had been a member of the Secret the papers which formed the subject of his Committee, he might have had it in his motion? Why,--for the very reason that power to make the necessary selirhad been assigned by his other Hon. tion of papers, and to move for the proFriend (Mr. J. Smith), who had moved duction of the documents so selected; best the amendment: because there were re. that, under present circumstances, his only ports, insinuations and rumours abroad, way would be, to bring the Noble Marrespecting the distinguished Nobleman in quis's conduct before the Court of Proquestion, which he (dr. Hume), for one, prietors upon the broadest possible view believed to be false. (Hear!) And yet Let the Court compare the conduct of the that Hon. Proprietor (Mr. J. Smith), after Company towards his Lordship on former the expression of a similar opinion, had occasions, let them call that to their rece! moved, before he sat down, for those very lection, and ask whether they haul not alHyderabad papers, upon accusations rela- ready come to two specific votes of thanks tive to transactions in that part of India, to him? Perhaps he (Mr. Hume) stoel which he professed to consider false and at that moment in the Court, the only matt unfounded, (hear, hear!) and which he who warmly opposed those votes, urging therefore would not believe. But (which the Court of Proprietors to take the Noble was yet more inconsistent) his. Hon. Marquess's actions as a statesman and Friend (Mr. J. Smith) had said, “the Pro- civil governor into their view; to consider prietors, in this matter, knew nothing.' whether or no he had acted up to the duAnd yet, in a moment afterwards, his Hon. ties of those stations; and if they thought Friend had added “ that he knew that the that he had, not to content themselves with Directors bad taken into consideration looking at his services in a mere military the services of the noble Marquis, and point of view, in case it should turn out had determined not to give him £5,000 that such military services were were at: a-year.” Now he (Mr. Hume), con gressions upon those against whom they tended that here his Hon. Friend's asser had been directed.-(Hear!) He appealed tion applied to himself: he, as a Proprietor, to the Court whether this was no: the lancould know nothing about the business. guage that he (Mr. Hume) had held upon (Hear!) How did his Hon. Friend know the occasions in question?—(Hear!) Be that to be the fact ?

had, in holding it, endeavoured to put biniThe Chairman.- Mr. Smith might know self in the situation of the Noble Marquess

, it, because on a former day Mr. Pattison and to enter into his feelings; and that he had said as much.

had done so with success, he inferred from Mr. Hume. But his Hon. Friend had the Noble Marquess's letter to the House also said, that he know that the Directors of Cominons, in which, while he thanked had papers relative to the matter in ques them for what they had done, he seemed tion before them. How did he know to think that he had performed services of that? (Hear !) At least his Hon. Friend a much higher character than the directhad no right to know it; it was a piece ing the operations of the military force of partial, unofficial information; and he of India. Though he did not say » thought such information as ought to have much in express terms, yet the letter induced his Hon. Friend to adopt quite a went to this : that the question of his different course. A question had been civil services in the government of Input to him (Mr. Hume) by the Hon. dia being of much greater moment than Proprietor (Mr. Kinnaird), as to the way any thing to which the vote for his miliin which he should bring this matter before tary achievements had reference, he might this Court. He had immediately an

in justice have expected that those civil swered his Hon. Friend, that he had no merits would also have been taken into doubt that, up to a certain period, the consideration. Now, was it too much to Noble Marquess's conduct stood perfectly assume that they who had signed or a. unimpeached. His Hon. Friend (Mr. sented to a favourable opinion upon the Kinnaird) had no authority to go on but Marquess of Hastings conduct

, who had there were reports of a malicious nature looked over those records, those honourable abroad, to the general effect, that some views of his Lordship's career which had thing had occurred under the Government been laid before this Court; and those in India of a peculiar and an unpleasant votes, which had been agreed to elsewhere,

He had undertaken to tel! were bound to support thz e motion before his Hon. Friend, that it would be his them?-( Hear!) was ít honourable in own most anxious wish that the papers them to say that there was or was not a necessary for the illustration of the time, at which the conduct of this Noble InNoble Individual's public conduct, from dividual, like that of all others, should be the period last spoken of to the present deliberately considered ? | Hear!) dod

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if upon such papers the opinions of Ho rumours.-(Hear!) If they were once nourable Proprietors upon the merits and to neglect this rule, there would be an end services of the Marquess of Hastings, up to to the fairness and regularity of all their a certain period, should remain un proceedings. He recommended his Hon. changed; then the question for the Court Friend (Mr. Smith) to call, therefore, a would be, had all former governors received, Court of Proprietors; to remind them of at the expiration of their governments, some the votes they had given; and then to ask, rewards; or had they been entirely neg not for the Hyderabad papers alone, but also lected and passed over ?-(Hear!) If the for all other papers that might enable them answer were, that they had been rewarded, to decide upon the questions that had been then in the present case the Court were raised about the Marquess. Either the Marbound to state that there were grounds quess of Hastings was to blame, or he was for this exclusion, and also wbat those not to blame. If his Lordship was to grounds were. He (Mr. Hume) said, as blame, and he would suppose the case of one of those who sate outside the bar, that his being blameable in the particular transhe could not put bis finger upon the parti action which had been adverted to-putcular act of the Noble Marquess that could ting it, however, merely as a supposed have influenced the Court of Directors, case-he had committed a fault, and where The Honourable Proprietor (Mr. D. was the man whose conduct in such a Kinnaird) had therefore taken the only number of years had been without one? sensible and respectful course. When he (Hear, hear !) But if this fault had been said it was “a respectful course,” he meant committed, did it countervail all the advanthis: that his Honourable Friend bad not tages and benefits that the Company had taken upon himself to suggest to the Court derived from his services ?-(Hear :) Or what papers ought to be laid before was it fit that it should be acted upon withthem; much less would he have had the out examination or inquiry ? Supposing, temerity to commit such an injustice as however, on the contrary, that no blame at he would have been guilty of, if, in taking all was imputable to the Marquess, would his a review of a man's conduct for nine years, Hon. Friend (Mr.J. Smith) be prepared to in the government of a vast country, he say, that if these Hyderabad papers were on were to move for papers relative to one spe the table of the Proprietors, and nothing cific act only. That he put it to his Hon. should result from them for or against the Friend (Mr. J. Smith) whether that amend Marquess of Hastings, that their producment of his could be persevered in, consis tion alone would satisfy either the Court of tently with any principles of honour, of pro Proprietors or the Directors, or the public priety, or of gratitude, as regarded the mind, or, above all, the Marquess himself? feeling with wbich the Court was bound -(Hear!) Would it not be felt, that to look upon the services that had been more was to be seen than documents relarendered to the Company by the Marquess tive to one single fact ? and would it not of Hastings.-( Hear !) But what he had be necessary to satisfy the minds of men concurred with his Hon. Friend in think with respect to the remainder of his Lording, when the motion before the Court was ship's public conduct? He (Mr. Hume) first suggested, and what lie contended for was convinced, from the high and unsul. to-day, and would join any Hon. Proprie lied character which his Hon. Friend was tor in moving for, was, that if any motion known to possess, and of which he himself were made at all, it ought to be for alt pa had had a considerable experience, that he pers connected with the conduct of the (Mr. Smith) would, upon a second view of Noble Marquess, and let the enquiry be into the matter, perceive that he was not about the whole of those matters. He would still to do that justice which he must in his maintain that another mode of proceeding own mind have proposed to do by the could not be adopted. But he would state amendment he had subunitted. But the to his Hon. Friend (Mr. Smith), that as motion of his other Hon. Friend (Mr. D. they were not acquainted with the transac Kinnaird) embraced every thing that the tions to which his speech had referred, and interests of the case and of justice required : as it could not be considered decorous in a for it proposed, " That it be referred to public body to take up those vague and the Court of Directors forthwith to take uncertain reports, he thought (if he might into their consideration, and report to so far assume the authority of the Chair this Court, their judgment upon papers man), that the Court would not be war relative to the whole public conduct of ranted in proceeding at all upon such re Lord Hastings.” Now what would the ports ; nor would common propriety war amendment go to? What would the rerant them, as a great, opulent, and most fusal of the Court to accede to the original important body, to do so. He perfectly motion for the production of papers, geneagreed with those who maintained, that if rally, imply? Why, that up to this period, there was any one rule of more moment the reports that were abroad received a than another, for the observance of any certain degree of confirmation. If the such public, body, it was,

that they Directors declined or disputed granting should not act upon vague and anonymous the object of the motion, such a course on

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