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of the others to the same source. The The Chairman (W. Wigram, Esq.) havfact was, and he could not too often re ing laid before the Proprietors sundry peat it, that the change observable in papers which had been presented to ParIndia arose from the difference of age in liament since the last General Court, prosending out young men, which was now ceeded to move the question of adjourn. nineteen instead of being seventeen years ment. of age. Some Gentlemen said, “ let well alone.” This was not treating him fairly,
THE MARQUESS OF HASTINGS. for no man had denied that there were The Hon. D. Kinnaird said, he would take evils inherent in the system. Mr. Mal- the liberty which that Quarterly Court thus, who had been so often quoted, bad afforded, to ask what progress was made plainly admitted that there were evils in- in the selection of the papers which the herent in the institution, and he had stated Court of Proprietors, by their vote, had them in bis pamphlet. He (Mr. Kin directed to be printed, on the subject of naird) had not attacked the Professors, the administration of the Marquess of but the system which was imposed upon Hastings? He was aware that those them. The Hon. Director (Sir G, Robin papers must be very voluminous, and he son) wished to mitigate the College disci- suggested that they should be printed altopline, and had complained that the pros- gether. But previously to their being pects of twelve young men had been completed, he thought it would be exruined merely for the commission of tremely convenient if an opportunity childish pranks. He differed with him were given to the Proprietors of knowing there ; he could not call the act of young
what, in the first instance, it was promen blowing open their doors with gun- posed to print, so that any suggestion powder a childish prank.
made by them, with respect to any addicertainly no moral turpitude in the of. tional document which it might seem fence, but he thought that after such necessary to produce, should be attended conduct the Professors could not allow He supposed that the papers selected the parties to remain in the College. Still would comprise a general view of the the Legislature was wrong in allowing military, political, and commercial situaany recuperative opportunity elsewhere to tion of India under the administration of such young men, and that was the use he the Noble Marquess. Those, he thought, made of the circumstance in his argument.
were the divisions under which the papers Parliament, he had no doubt, would meet would naturally be arranged. There was, their application fairly, and remedy the however, he understood, a paper before evil. Why should they be so much afraid the Court of Directors, a sort of exposé of the House of Coinmons ? They had on the part of the Noble Marquess him. forgot them, altogether, for the space of self, and he wished to know whether it thirty years, after making a famous scape would be printed amongst the other goat of their affairs, in the heat of politi- papers ? He was likewise aware that cal contention, and only took them up some other papers had been laid before the when the question of the renewal of the Court of Directors, and he was anxious charter made legislative interference ne to know whether they also were to be cesary. He was quite sure, that if they went printed ? at present before the House of Commons,
The Chairman had to state, in answer the matter would be adjusted quietly, by to the Hon. Proprietor, that progress had some half a dozen gentlemen who felt an been made in the selection of the papers interest in the result; and that, so far from alluded to, and a certain number of them the subject inviting general attention, the had been sent to the printer. It was the moment it was mentioned the great body intention of the Court of Directors not to of the Members of the Honourable House deliver any of those papers until the whole would go quietly away to their own pri- series were printed. The paper alluded vate avocations. (Alaugh.) He concluded to by the Hon. Proprietor, as coming from by earnestly pressing the question upon their the Marquess of Hastings, would be printmature and deliberate consideration. It was ed. (Hear!) The Hon. Proprietor had not for destroying, but for repairing and also referred, though not by name, to perpetuating their College. (Hear, hear!) some papers, which he (the Chairman)
On the question being put from the Chair, supposed to be those which had been sent a ballot was demanded, which the Chair to the Court by an Hon. Baronet. Those paman directed to be taken on Wednesday pers would be printed. (Hear!) The milithe 31st March.
tary papers which had already been before the Proprietors, relative to the Nepaul,
Mahratta, and Pindarree wars, with poliEast-India House, March 24.
tical documents connected with those A Quarterly General Court of Pro transactions, would also be printed. The prietors of East-India Stock was this day military selection was very nearly comheld, at the Company's House in Leaden pleted, and the other selections would be hall Street, pursuant to the terms of the got ready as speedily as possible. Prior
to the papers being delivered to the Pro
proprietors, he was sure the Court of Di. The Chairman said, he could not state rectors would afford an opportunity to the whether such an account as that alluded to Hon. Mover and his friends, to submit for by the Hon. Member existed ; but he their consideration the propriety of print- trusted that such a selection of papers ing any other papers, which, in their view would be made as would be perfectly sufof the subject, might be deemed necessary. ficient for the purpose of elucidating the
The Hon. D. Kinnaird. -- “ Can the administration of the Marquess of Has Hon. Chairman give any idea of the time tings. when the papers will be ready ?”
INDIA BONDS. The Chairman said, he could not give the Hon. Proprietor any certainty on that The Chairman again put the question of point, for the political selection had not adjournment, when yet been determined on: some of those General Thornton rose, and stated that papers were not before the Court of Di. he wished to propose a motion which aprectors, but in the possession of the Se- peared to him to be of some consequence. cret Committee, and application for leave The Chairman.-" The gallant Gedeto produce them had been made to the ral may ask a question, but he cannot Board of Comınissioners. Until the Secret make a motion. The question before the Committee knew whether they would be Court is—that the Court do now adjourn." allowed to lay those papers before the General Thornton observed, that the Court of Directors, he could not say question of adjournment was put quite when the selection would be ready; but suddenly, and before he was aware of it. he could assure the Hon. Proprietor that He trusted that no form of that kind no time would be lost on the occasion. would be suffered to interfere with his
The Hon. D. Kinnaird said he was motion, which he pledged himself would quite sure the Hon. Chairman must see not detain the Court long. It was a mothe great importance of the observations tion with respect to India bonds, and he had made. The possibility of keeping couched in terms perfectly respectful to back from the Proprietors certain papers the Court of Directors. The interest paid which were before the Secret Committee, on India bonds, and the premium they was a matter that deserved very serious bore, was too high ; and it was of very attention ; yet it appeared that it was great importance to the public that the competent for the Board of Controul to do rate of interest should be lowered. The this. The possibility of such a circum. motion he would take the liberty of readstance rendered it very desirable that it ing was : should be ascertained, before the papers “ Resolved, That it be recommended were ready for delivery, whether the to the Court of Directors to take into imBoard of Controul acceded to or refused mediate consideration the propriety of the request. It was necessary that the giving the necessary notice for the purpose Proprietors should receive full informa- of a reduction of the present annual inte tion on this point; because, in coming to rest of 31 per cent. paid on India bondsa just estimate of the services of the a measure which, it appears to this Court, Marquess of Hastings, many of these very would not only be beneficial to the Prodocuments might be of the first-rate im- prietors, but likewise advantageous to the portance. If they were withheld, the public; the present premium per centum Noble Marquess might be placed in a paid for India bonds being about 80s., situation in which justice could not be rendering it manifest that the existing indone to him. He therefore hoped that a terest is unnecessarily high, and therefore statement would be made, as early as pos- injurious to the Proprietors, whilst the sible, as to the success of the application. public is deprived of that accommodation
The Chairman wished it to be clearly wbich India bonds, at a moderate preunderstood, that he had not stated that mium, are so well calculated to afford." those papers would be refused; all he The Chairman submitted to the gallant meant to say was, that until the Secret General, whether it was proper to bring Committee received an answer to the re forward a question of such importance, by quest made to the Board of Commissioners, way of motion, at the Quarterly General he could not state when the papers would Court, without notice? This was a subbe ready.
ject of a financial nature; and the galMr. Trant took the liberty of observing, lant General must himself feel, that of that as financial papers were mentioned, course the rate of interest on India bonds and as, amongst those papers, there would must form a part of those pecuniary conprobably be found an account of the reve siderations to which the attention of the nues of Bengal and of the ceded territo. Court of Directors was particularly called. ries on the west of the Jumna, during the He was quite satisfied the Court would administration of the Marquess of Welles agree with him, that this subject, amongst ley, and during the administration of the others, was one of that peculiar species, Marquess of Hastings, it was, lie thought, the consideration of which ought to be of importance, that that account should left to the Executive Body. (Hear.) be laid before the Court,
General Thornton said, he merely wish.
ed to call the attention of the Directors to mons, where the question of adjournment the subject. He should be perfectly satis had been put, and afterwards withdrawn fied with their decision, whatever it might from motives of courtesy, when a gentlebe.
man expressed a wish to move something The Hon. D. Kinnaird said, the gallant that was not calculated to create a debate. General's object had been quite answered, If, however, the motion of adjournment for he had called the attention of the Court were brought forward to defeat any proof Directors to the subject. If, however, position, it was of course, persisted in. he wished, contrary to their judgment, to He had known many instances where, place his sentiments on record, he had after the question of adjournment had been better give a formal notice for some future put, a member had got up, and had been period. If the gallant General pressed heard by the House. The adjournment the question now, he must perceive that in this case was, he repeated, moved as the Directors would out-vote the Proprie- hastily as possible. It even seemed to him tors at once. (A laugh!) It was a ques. to be irregular, and he had hoped that tion of importance, and certainly the the Hon. Chairman would have withgallant General had a right to bring it drawn bis motion to let his (General forward; but he thought the Court of Thornton's) be brought forward. He Directors could give very sound reasons only wished to have his motion put that it for not altering the rate of interest at this might be recorded. moment.
The Chairman said he was very sorry General Thornton said he would not that he could not concede this point. The press the question on the Court, but he gallant General has argued, that the mowished it to be put from the Chair. tion of adjournment was hastily put. Now
The Chairman,—"The question is that he (the Chairman) liad stated, in the usual this Court do nox adjourn.'
form, that this was a Quarterly General The Hon. D. Kinnaird.—The gallant Court, and, no other business offering, he General may move, that all the words moved an adjournment : this was the reguafter the word “that” be omitted, for the lar course, and he could not proceed in purpose of proposing in their place his any other way. He knew, that in the own motion, by way of amendment. House of Commons, a motion was some
The Chairman was surprised that the times made to put an end to a debate by gallant General, who had been so long a moving “ that this House do now admember of the Legislature, could imagine journ;” and that, for the purpose of perthat he could have taken any other course, mitting the ordinary business to go on, save that of moving an adjournment, an adjournment of the specific debate was when there was no question before the agreed to; but this was not analogous to Court for discussion.
the present case. The Hon. D. Kinnaird apprehended the The Hon. D. Kinnaird again argued, regular course for the gallant General to that, on a motion for adjournment, or any take would be, to move that all the words thing else, it was competent for him to after the word "that” be left out, for the move, that all the words after the word purpose of inserting his motion by way of « that” be omitted, in order to make amendment.
room for the insertion of any amendment The Deputy Chairman (Wm. Astell, he pleased. If any new light could be Esq.) differed from the Hon. Proprietor thrownon so plain a proposition, he could on the point of form. He did not mean assure the Hon, Chairman that he was to say any thing as to the injudiciousness very anxious to be enlightened. If it of bringing forward a motion on so deli were moved to adjourn this Court to this cate a subject as the interest of India day fortnight, or this day three weeks, bonds without previous notice, but would might he not move a contraction or an merely confine himself to the question of extension of the period ? The first moform. It did appear to him that no ques- tion which was made, after the regular tion could interfere with the question of business had been gone through which adjournment; if that proposition were the Court was met to transact, was, as a negatived, then, indeed, the gallant Ge matter of course, that the Court do now neral might bring forward what motion he adjourn; and he contended it was on pleased. But prior to the entertainment that motion that business could most reguof the present motion of the gallant Ge- larly be brought forward, because it was neral, the Court must, he apprehended, a motion which shewed that there was no negative the question of adjournment; farther business then pending. In such until that was done, the gallant General a case, if he got up and said he had some could not proceed without violating the business which he wished to submit to established practice of this Court, and, as the Court, he had a right to do so; and he believed, of other deliberative assemblies. the proper way of effecting that object
General Thornton said he believed that, would be, by moving to omit all the in point of order, the Hon. Deputy Chair words after the word “ that,” and introman was perfectly right; but he had ducing in their place his proposition as an known instances in the House of Com amendinent.
The Chairman said, the course he had prietors, by causing a petition to be in pursued was perfectly regular. He had mediately drawn up and presented to Parstated, in the first place, that this was a liament on the subject. He asked for Quarterly General Court. The gallant information, as he wished to know wheGeneral ought then to have declared that ther the Court of Directors would iminehe wished to submit a motion to the diately proceed to have such a petition Court. Instead of that, he got up after drawn up ? the adjournment was moved, and pro The Chairman. — “ If, unfortunately, ceeded to address the Court. The gal. the question should be carried, which, lant General was informed that he might however, I do not anticipate, I have only ask a question, but that it was too late to to state, that the Court of Directors wil make a motion, and then be placed the consider it their duty to have a petition matter on the ground of courtesy. His drawn up and properly presented to Pas(the Chairman's) opinion was, that if the liament.”—Adjourned. Court wished to go on with the gallant General's motion, they must negative the proposition for adjournment which was March 31.- A ballot was taken on Mr. now before them.
Kinnaird's motion, relating to Haileybury General Thornton then gave notice, that College ; at six o'clock the glasses were he would, at the next Quarterly General closed and delivered to the scrutineers, Court, if no earlier opportunity occurred, when the numbers were declared, propose his motion, which he handed in
For the motion
272 to the Clerk.
Against it ........................... 400 HAILEYBURY COLLEGE. The Hon. D. Kinnaird said, a ques.
Majority against the motion ...128 tion was to be decided by ballot in the course of a few days (he meant that rela Erratum.- In the Debate of March 3 tive to Haileybury College), which, al- reported in our last number, instead of though he knew it would surprise the the closing paragraph, p. 455, announcHon. Chairman and many of his col. ing an adjournment of the question, the leagues, he expected to be carried by a following should be inserted, viz. large majority. (A laugh.) In that case, The motion of the Chairman for the he apprehended it would not be necessary production of all papers relative to the for the Proprietors to go through any other Marquess of Hastings' administration was forms beyond those which had already carried. It was subsequently, also, on the been resorted to. The Directors would Chairman's motion, agreed that those pathen, he supposed, proceed at once to pers should be printed, and the Count then carry into effect the wishes of the Pro- adjourned, sine die.
16. Mr. H. Batson, 3d Member of
Board of Revenue in Western Provinces. CIVIL APPOINTMENTS.
30. The Hon. J. R. Elphinstone, Sen. Judicial Department.
Member of Board of Revenue in Central Oct. 30. Mr. W. 0. Salmon, Senior Provinces. Judge of Provincial Court of Appeal and Court of Circuit for division of Calcutta.
MILITARY APPOINTMENTS, Political Department."
PROMOTIONS, &c. Nov. 14. Mr. David Scott, Agent to
Fort William, Oct. 10, 1823.- 30th N.1 Governor General on North-Eastern Fron
Ens. F. V. McGrath to be Lieut., vice tier of Bengal, and Civil Commissioner in Curgenven, deceased, with rank from 11 Rungpore.
Med. Depart. Dep. Superint. Surg. d. Sept. 18. Mr. T. Wyatt, Head Assis Browne to be Superintend. Surg., and tant in Office of Secretary to Board of Surg. J. Johoston to be Dep. SuperioRevenue in Lower Provinces.
tend. Surg., from 25 July 1823, in suc25. Mr. J. Hunter, Deputy Collector cession to Keys, dec. of Sea Customs at Calcutta,
Capt. I. Maling, 32d N.I., to officiate Mr. C. R. Cartwright, Assistant to as Town and Fort Adj. of Fort Willian, Salt Agent and Collector of Hidgelee. during absence of Capt. Wilkinson.
Oct. 9. Mr. G. F. Brown, Assistant Messrs. F. Grote and G. H. Skinley in office of Secretary to Board of Reve- admitted Cadets of Artil., and promoted nue in Lower Provinces.
Messrs. T. Shuldham, H. Kirke, and Wilson; Ensigns A. S. Singer and G. E. F. Gresley admitted Cadets of Inf., and Van Heythuysen. promoted to Ensigns.
9th Regt. Ist Bal. Lieut. Col. G. M.
Popham; Lieuts. C. Farmer, G. R. TalHead-Quarters, Cawnpore, Sept. 20, bot, and 0. Lomer ; Ensigns H. Todd 1823.– The Commander-in-Chief is pleas- and C. J. F. Burnett.—2d Bat. Capt. W. ed to post officers to regts. and bats., con Guise ; Lieuts. W. H. Phipps, and C.H. sequent to the promotions and arrange Naylor; Ensigns S. Williams and J. ments for new regiments, as follows:
10th Regt. 1st Bat. Lieut.-Col. H. 1st Regt. Ist Bat. Lieuts. W. Hickey Bowen ; Maj. T. Newton; Capts. P. (Adj. Cal. N. Militia), C. J. Oldfield Dudgeon, H. E. Peach, and E. Fell ;. (Chumparun Light Inf.) and W. Y. Lieuts. A. B. Armstrong, C. G. Macan, Torckler; Ensigns R. Macdonald, H. and J. Burney; Ensigns A. Mac Donald Smith, and A. Bogle.--2d Bat. Capt. S. (furlough), H. M. Graves, and C. S. Bar. Speck; Lieut. I. Cooper; Ensigns B. berie.-2d Bat. Lieuts. M. Dormer (furBoswell and P. Goldney.
lough), C. V. Wylde, R. Chelwode, and 2d Regt. 1st Bat. Maj. F. A. Weston; W. Struthers; Ensigns J. Buncombe and Capt. T. J. Baldwin; Lieuts. (B. C.) H. N. Worsley. A. F. P. MacLeod, W. Mackintosh, W. 11th Regt. 1st Bal. Lieuts. T. Cooke, Murray, and R. E. Battley; Ensigns J. Evans, and R. J. H. Birch (furlough); W. Stewart and M. W. Gilmore.-2d Ensigns J. C. Plowden (furlough), W. Bat. Capt. J. Donaldson; Lieuts. F. Hunter, and R. Riddell.--2d Bat. Lieut. Warwick and B. Bygrave (Pioneers); R. McNair and Ens. H. Stone. Ensigus J. Peacocke, and N. S. Nesbitt. 12th Regt. Ist Bat. Lieuts. W.L. Lud.
3d Regt. Ist Bat. Capt. J. Taylor; low and J. L. Farrer (furlough); EnLieuts. E. Wakefield and T. H. New. signs W. Innes and J. S. Hodgson.—2d house ; Ensigns W. D. Stewart, D. C. Bat. Lieuts. T. Goldney and J. Corfield; Keiller and H. W. J. Wilkinson.-2d Ensigns R. H. Miles, É. Corner, and T. Bat. Capt. W. P. Cooke; Lieuts. J. Mur. H. Scott. ray, J. H. Clarkson, and A. K. Agnew; 13th Regt. Lieut. - Col.-Com. J. L. Ensigns W. Macgeorge (furlough), and Richardson.- 1st Bat. Capts. A. Roberts O. B. Thomas.
and C. Savage; Lieuts. C. J. Huthwaite 4th Regt. 18t Bat. Lieuts. J. K. Mc and J. B. D. Gahan ; Ensigns W. M. Causland (1st Nusseree Bn.), H. Hud Tritton and J. H. Handscomb.c2d Bat. dleston, and W. G. Cooper; Ensigns M. Capt. R. Seymour; Lieuts. G. M. S. Smith and Hon. H. Gordon.-2d Bat. Robe and A. Watt; Ensigns G. BurLieuts. J. Platt and C. Chester; Ensigns ford and W. Glen. A. Arabin (Pioneers) and W. H. R. Bo 14th Regt. 1st Bal. Capts. R. Hornby land.
and D. D. Anderson ; Lieuts. R. W. Hal5th Regt. Ist Bat. Lieut.-Col. W. P. hed, W. Rutherford, and G. N. Irvine ; Price; Maj. W. G. Patrickson; Capt. Ensigns J. A. Fairhead and H. Fitz SiD. G. Scott ; Lieut. E. E. Ludlow ; En mons.--24 Bal. Maj. J. Simpson; Capt. signs T. Gear and J. Stephen.-2Bat. A. Stewart; Lieuts. A. Hodges, H. C. Maj. G. Cooper ; Capt. W. Price; Lieuts. Boileau, and W. Wise; Ensigns J. ChesF. B. Corfield, F. B. Todd, and J. Mac ney and J. Bracken. lean; Ensigns A. C. Dennistoun and J.
1st Bat. Lieuts. E. N. H. Craigie.
Townsend and J. G. Gordon; Ensigns 6th Regt. 1st Bat. Lieut.-Col. C. Poole; W. H. Lcacock and R. Menzies.--2d Maj. S. P. Bishop; Capt. F. M. Cham. Bat. Lieuts. C. Manning, J. W. Rowe, bers; Lieuts. J. Brooke, C. Gale, and J. and A. L. Durie; Ensigns W. R. CorButler; Ensigns J. Hannay (furlough) field and C. R. Eyre. and J. R. Bigge.-2d Bat. Capt. R. Blis 16th Regt. Ist Bat. Capt. J. H. Lester ; set ; Lieuts. M. Richardson (furlough), Lieuts. G. Irvine, and A. E. McMurdo; and E J. Betts ; Ensigns. A. L. Barwell Ensigns J. Campbell and W. Mitchell.(furlough) and F. W. Anson.
2d Bat. Maj. P. Starling; Lieuts. E. F. 7th Regt. 1st Bat. Maj. G. Cunning Spencer, A. Lewis, and J. W. Colquhoun ham ; Capt. A. Macdonald; Lieuts. B. (2d Nusseree Bn.); Ensigns F. Hewitt, W. Ebhart, W. Foley, (furlough), J. and T. W. Bolton. Burney, and J. Welchman; Ensigns C. 17th Regt. Lieut. - Col.-Com. J. Bur. Commeline and J. Cragie. -211 But. Maj. net, C.B.-1st Bat. Maj. E. F. Waters; P. T. Comyn; Capt. E. Gwatkin; Lieuts. Capt. W. Mathew ; Lieuts. H. H. ArB. W. Beatson, and J. P. Wade; Ensigns naud, R. Angelo, and J. Gibb; Ensigns E. St. J. Sturt and F. W. Hardwick, G. T. Marshall and W. Brownlow.-2d
8th Regt. Ist. Bat. Lieuts. J. E. Lan Bat. Lieut.-Col. T Penson; Capt. S. ders and F. C. Reeves; Ensigns H. Mercer ; Lieuts. J. S'eil and J. GresCharlton, and E. Du P. Townshend.2d lam; Ensigns H. More and T. Seaton. Bat. Lieuts. P. Gerard, R. Birch, and G. 18th Regl. 1st Bal. Lieut.-Col. R. Asiatic Journ.-No. 101.
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