not be called upon to stay more than two or three days and that while such adjournment would not be taken as a precedent for the future, it would help very much and convenience very many of us if we could get away early this week.

The President-Are you ready for the question upon the motion?

Mr. Schurman I think the last remark made by the last speaker is one on which we should have an understanding. I am not opposed to the motion which has been made, but I think we ought to know for our own convenience, whether, if this motion prevails, it will establish a precedent so that the expectation in our own minds and the mind of the public who pay any attention to what we are doing, will be that we shall next week and the following week, and perhaps for some weeks to come, adjourn on Thursday. I rather think that would be undesirable, and, in supporting the present motion, I do so on the understanding that the situation during the present week is exceptional — the Convention getting organized — and that under the circumstances as they exist this week no public interest would be subserved by our remaining longer in session or injured by our adjournment.

Mr. Wickersham My motion was made because of the circumstances mentioned by the last speaker, not at all with the idea of establishing a precedent, and after some hesitation, but after appreciating the fact that there will probably be no business before the Convention to-morrow and that a good deal of the machinery of organization which is going forward will not be completed within the next two or three days.

Mr. Stimson-Mr. President, in view of the remarks of the Vice-President, I simply desire to say that the purpose of my statement was to make it perfectly clear that in seconding the motion I deemed it was not to be a precedent for future weeks but due entirely to the exceptional conditions of the week of organization.

Mr. Blauvelt- Mr. President, I understand, or my recollection is, that this Convention adopted a rule for the holding of the sessions of the Convention on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays. I doubt whether this motion is in order, for the reason that an amendment of the rules would be required.

It is true that the work of the Convention does not require, perhaps, the attendance of the members at the session to-morrow. My impression is that a formal session should be held to-morrow, and that the rule cannot be suspended.

Mr. Quigg- Mr. President, this is not such a serious matter as some would seem to have it appear to be. Now, we adopted the rules by a majority vote, with, as I understand it, the assurance of the Chair that at any time, by a majority vote, we could change

them, and if we adopt the motion made by the gentleman from New York that we do not meet to-morrow and it is pretty obvious to all of us that there is no occasion to meet to-morrow, for we have not really got started as yet that would be simply changing a rule by a majority vote.

Now, if there is going to be a proposition that we have got to change a rule in some other way than that, I want to understand it. Mr. J. L. O'Brian- Mr. President, I think both gentlemen who have spoken are under a misapprehension. The sessions were not fixed by rule. The sessions were fixed by a resolution which was offered by the Committee on Rules simply as a resolution, and that resolution provides, if they will consult it, that, until further ordered by the Convention, the Convention shall meet at 10 o'clock on the days mentioned.

Mr. Quigg- I guess it amounts to the same thing.

Mr. J. L. O'Brian-Therefore, Mr. President, the motion that is made by Mr. Stimson is entirely in order.

Mr. Quigg-I think it amounts to the same thing.

Mr. Brackett Mr. President, if I may be permitted, I would suggest this, which I believe to be the best solution of the situation: The President is a resident of the city, and, if not, the VicePresident is, and I would suggest that we let either one of them have a formal session to-morrow with the understanding that nobody will be expected to attend the meeting, and that the Sergeant-at-Arms will not be sent for us.

That is a great deal better than to establish the precedent of ending the session on Thursday, and adjourning over until the following Tuesday, because it is so easy a thing to follow up, and you will find there will always be some reason to adjourn from Thursday to Tuesday, if we establish the precedent.

Mr. Deyo Mr. President, in order that we may have an expression of the Convention as to whether or not a session shall be held to-morrow, I move the previous question.

The President The question is, Shall the main question now be put? All in favor of the motion will say Aye, contrary No. The Ayes have it. The motion prevails.

The question is on the motion made by Mr. Wickersham, that when the Convention adjourns to-day, that it adjourn until 12 o'clock on Tuesday next. All in favor of the motion say Aye, contrary No. The Ayes have it, and the motion is agreed to.

Mr. Quigg — Mr. President, I have never been a member of the Assembly or the Senate, and I do not quite understand the papers that are placed before us by the printer.

Now, in the documents that were directed to be printed, in

which the rules should be printed, I find in my papers this morning a Document No. 3. That appears to be the rules, to a certain extent, and then I find a Document No. 4, about a printing board. and at the close, the agreement - the printer has got the Articles of Agreement between him and the Committee in good shape.

Then, I find over here another set of rules that I do not understand, as though they contradict the first set, and then finally I find out how much the printer is to be paid.

Mr. M. Saxe- Mr. President, I rise to a point of order. I should like to be informed as to what order of business we are under at this moment.

Mr. Quigg-Mr. President, I simply wanted to inquire as to whether or not the Committee which was directed to inquire into the printing matter has made a report, as the Convention ordered, or, if they have not, if I may have an explanation of the documents placed on my desk this morning.

The President - The Chair is unable to inform the gentleman. The Chair has no information except by looking at the documents. The Document No. 3 appears to be the rules.

Mr. Marshall If the gentleman will look on page 5 of Document 4, he will find the following clause: "And it is further agreed, that each page of documents, journals and proceedings shall be set in the same size of type, and the same weight and quality of paper shall be used as in the samples submitted by said printing board to the party of the second part, and which samples are attached hereto and made a part hereof."

The page to which the gentleman just referred and those that follow are specimens of different kinds of printing. One, you will see, is the reproduction of the Record of the Constitutional Convention of 1894. Page 16, the form of the Record, the form of type used. On page 18, there is the Journal. On page 20, there is the Document, No. 9, which is a sample document used in the Convention of 1894, which covers the rules of the Convention, and it is not a reproduction of something which is to be found in Document No. 3, which is a document of this Convention.

On page 22, he will find the form of a proposed amendment as used in the Convention of 1894, and on page 24, he will find the form of the daily calendar used in that Convention.

So that there is no reproduction of anything in connection with this Convention. The matter is simply submitted as a sample.

Mr. Quigg Mr. President, I believe that we are all very much obliged to Mr. Marshall for his explanation, because I was very much confused.

Mr. M. Saxe-Mr. President, I rose a moment ago to a point of order. I think it is very important that we should keep to the order of business as prescribed by the rules.

The President-Any interruption of the order of business is assumed to be by unanimous consent, and any delegate at any time can be called to the regular order of business. Any member may rise to a point of order, which will shut off all other matters, unless they be matters of personal privilege.

The next order of business is the reports of standing committees. Mr. Fobes Mr. President, I would like to announce that a meeting of the Committee on Contingent Expenses will be held in Room No. 236 immediately after this session, and that we would like to have the Chairman of the Rules Committee present.

The President - The President is requested to announce that the Rules Committee and the Committee on Minor Officers and the Committee on Contingent Expenses will meet in conference.

The members of the three committees named will take notice of that engagement, that a conference between the Rules Committee and the Committee on Contingent Expenses and the Committee on Minor Officers will be held in the President's room immediately upon adjournment.

Mr. M. Saxe- Mr. President, the Committee on Taxation desires to announce through the press that it extends an invitation to appear before the Committee to all individuals and organizations who desire to be heard on the subject of taxation, and that such individuals and organizations be respectfully asked to send their requests to be heard to the Committee forthwith, addressed to the Secretary of the Committee.

The Committee further reports that it has organized with the selection of Mr. Ostrander of Saratoga as First Vice-President, Mr. Steinbrink of Kings as Second Vice-President, and Mr. Unger of New York as Secretary, and that the meetings of the Committee will be held Tuesday evenings at 8 o'clock, and Wednesday afternoons at 3 o'clock.

The President

mittees ?

Any further reports from the standing com

Reports of select committees.

There are no special orders or general orders.

The officer in charge of placing the papers, printed papers, in the files of the delegates, requests that the attention of the delegates be called to the necessity of leaving their files upon their desks instead of putting them in the desks and locking them up. It is necessary that the files should be left upon the desks so that the messengers charged with placing in the files the printed papers of the day may have access to them.

Mr. Wickersham- Mr. President, there is one difficulty that I believe we are all experiencing. I would like to take these proposed amendments home with me and read them during the days

that we are not engaged here. They are accumulating, and why could not we have a second copy of the proposed amendment?

The President - The Secretary advises the Chair that he is prepared to furnish a second copy of all the documents, the Record, and of all the printed papers to any delegate who will apply at the document room or who will send a page to the document room.

Mr. Wiggins Mr. President, before adjournment, with the permission of the Convention, I should like to call attention to the fact that Proposed Amendment No. 12 has not been printed, apparently, in accordance with the rules. After line No. 10, as I find by comparison with the Constitution, the entire matter is new matter and should be in italics.

Mr. Young, the introducer of the amendment, advises me it was all arranged for, and to sit down.

Mr. Wickersham - Mr. President, I move we adjourn.

The President- Mr. Wickersham moves to adjourn. All those in favor say Aye, contrary No. The motion is carried, and the Convention stands adjourned until 12 o'clock on Tuesday next. Whereupon, at 11:15 a. m., the Convention adjourned to meet at 12 o'clock noon, Tuesday, May 4, 1915.

TUESDAY, MAY 4, 1915

The President- The Convention will please be in order. Prayer by the Rev. J. Addison Jones-Let us pray. Almighty God, Thou hast watched over our going out and our coming in; Thou hast preserved our souls in light, and Thou has permitted us to gather here to continue the work to which we have been called, and to Thee we would bring the tribute of our praise for Thy constant care and Thy gracious favor. Under Thy benign guidance may we pass this day in peace and gladness, without stumbling and without stain. Enlighten Thou our reason, purify our senses, and direct our energies that we may walk in the way of righteousness, that we may devote ourselves to the business of life with zeal and cheerfulness, to the end that the results in our character and in our service may minister to the substantial progress of mankind and meet with the approbation of our God. Let the rich blessings of Thy grace descend upon Thy servants, the members of this Convention. May they give the best that is in them to the high and important tasks devolving upon them, to the end that the inalienable rights of the people may be safeguarded and that every honorable interest and enterprise may be worthily advanced. We invoke the gift of wisdom in behalf of Thy servant, the President of this Republic, that amid the perils and