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and priests; to redeem them from their captivity, and to make them a righteous people. And he, the Messiah, must be their king, and mighty to save. But Jesus was sacrificed, it may be for a good purpose, but this very circumstance shows that he was not the Messiah. 1. I am entirely of the same opinion that the Messiah will come again, aud restore Israel to their own land, and every true Christian believes it; but they must first look on him whom they have pierced, and mourn. J. Hassan. If I do not mistake, the Christians believe that the Messiah was to redeem Israel from eternal wrath by his death; but how can this be proved by the Old Testament? to which we ought to refer. I referred him to Gen. iii. 15, and Is. liii. J. Hassan. How can you prove that he is already come f I referred him to Gen. xlix. 10, and Dan. ix. J. Hassan. I cannot now go into argument, for I have not yet read your book, as I declared from the beginning. I have no hesitation to acknowledge Jesus was sent by God. I shall examine both the Old and the New Testament. The state of the Jews is bad indeed; they are the worst nation upon earth ; I. I love the Jews, and have pity and pray for them, that they may be saved by believing in Jesus, who is God above all, blessed for ever. J. Hassan. I cannot believe that he was God. I. Why? J. Hassan. I cannot comprehend such things with my reason. I. Do you take your reason for an infallible guide in matters of religion; or do you take the revelation of God laid down in Moses and the prophets? .J. Hassan. The Revelation of God. I. “A child” (I cited this text in Hebrew) “is born unto us, a son is given unto us, and his name is called, Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” J. Hassan (Repeated with visible surprise in Hebrew.) “A child is born unto us, a son is given unto us, and his name is called, Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” After he had repeated this verse, he said, “Let us speak about the seventh chapter of Isaiah.” I My dear brother, let us not spring from one point to another, but acknowledge candidly that the Son is called Mighty God.” J. Hassan. Yes. I. Then Jesus is Mighty God—for he was that Son of God. J. Hassan. I must read the New Testament. Our conversation was half in Italian, half in Hebrew, and half in English. I then requested Doctor P. to continue the discourse with my brother according to the flesh, which he did, and J. Hassan listened with great patience longer than half an hour, so that our conversation lasted an hour and a half. Dr. P. spake of the necessity of an atonement. J. H. confessed his entire ignorance of the New-Testament, and promised us to read it. I called again on Rabbi Gabay, and took with me some tracts and a copy of the Hebrew Psalter, of which Mr. Lewis Way has made me a present. Gabay was alone, for his wife and children were gone to town. He received me with all the kindness imaginable, and accepted from me the tracts and Psalter. I. Rabbi, will you allow me to talk with you freely? Gabay. With pleasure. I. I am, as you know, a Jew by birth, the son of a Rabbi, but I believe, by the grace of the Lord, that Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ, for the prophets and Moses assure us of it with clear and distinct words: and by him alone, by Jesus of Nazareth, remission of sins is obtained, if we believe in him. Rabbi, you may be persuaded that I do not tell you this with the intention of offending you, for I love the Jews. and am grieved when I see them persecuted by nominal Christians, who have mot the spirit of Christ; but I know at the same time, that the Jews are now dispersed throughout the world on. account of their unbelief. Their heart is hardened—

they hear not him who loves them—they read not his Gospel, which gives joy and peace. I never felt that joy I now feel, when I was a Jew. I tell you therefore, again, Jesus is the Shiloh who was to come. Gabay. Jesus is Shiloh—how do you prove it I. For the sceptre is departed from Judah, and the lawgiver from between his feet. Gabay. You translate shebet (ow) sceptre. I. What other meaning can you give bow Gabay. Shebet has ten meanings. First, bow (Sceptre,) nTor bow (the sceptre of the empire,) opts to-w (rod of chastisement,) after I have premised this, I translate Gen. xlix, 10, “The chastisement shall not depart from Judah, until Shiloh (Messiah) comes.” I. 1. You have left out Tojo for ppine, which, if you had candidly translated it, would show that your translation will not hold. I will translate after your manner, but I shall only translate those words which you have left out, and you will see the incompatibility of it. “CHAstus EMENT shall not depart from Judah, and the LAwgive R from between his feet until Shiloh comes.” Chastisement cannot consist with the privilege of the power to enact laws. 2. Jacob blessed Judah, and predicted that his brethren shall praise him; and being represented as a young lion, it is not probable that chastisement should be his lot. 3. Neither Jews nor Christians have the right of altering the sense according to their pleasure, in order that they may maintain their views and opinions. I confess freely, that there are Christians who do the same as you, but I do not approve of it, it produces partiality, bow was in this passage translated in the LXX. 280 years before Christ, in Jerome, in Targum Onkelos, and in the modern times by all the learned Jews, “sceptre;” why do you alter the sense? Gabay. How did your father translate it * I. Sceptre. Gabay. But did he apply it to Jesus * I. No ; for he was not onlightened by the grace of 6

the Lord, sor only the grace of God can teach us to know the Lord Jesus, God above all, blessed for ever. Gabay. Shiloh is Moses. I. Prove it. Gabay. Begimatria, (N"topje) or by the Cabalistical account of the letters; w signifies Moses, *, *, nwr.

I. I reject every proof which is not taken from the Bible. Gabay. Then I will shew you the opinion of the great Rabbi More. I. I have nothing to do with More—the Bible only . Gabay. Moses has received two Torahs, non n-by-v and 2-sn--w nomn. I. Prove by Enniow nomn, the written word, the truth, or the existence of neo-v roln, the traditional. As I saw that he began to make a poor figure, I broke off, and turned the conversation to Isaiah liii. Gabay. Israel’s sufferings are described in this chapter. I. According to this opinion, the 8th verse must be interpreted and translated in the following manner:— “Israel (he) was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people (Israel) was he (Israel) stricken.”—Gabay was silenced, but not convinced. After a little while Gabay said, “How could Jesus abolish circumcision ?” I answered him by Jeremiah XXXI. Gabay. It is clearly said, that the uncircumcised go to hell.—He showed me for a proof, Ezek. xxxii. I. It is not said that they go to hell on account of that uncircumcision of the flesh; and we must not confound the old with the new covenant. The conversation lasted two hours. We separated as friends, and he asked me to come to him again. JMay 24. Lieutenant Bailey, introduced me yesterday morning to Mr. Ben Oliel, who is not only the richest Jew, but the richest man, at Gibraltar; he is Consul general of the Emperor Morocco. He received us with great kindness, and told us he should be glad to see us at his country house, where he would give me all the information he could about the East. Dr. Parker and Lieut. Bailey went with me to Mr. Ben Oliel, and he received us with the cordiality of an Israelite indeed. And although I had told him I was a Jew, and had through conviction entered the Christian church, he, as a strict Jew, did not change his countenance, but promised to give me letters for the prior of the Spanish convent at Jerusalem, that he may introduce me to the Jews at Jerusalem. He was rejoiced that I could talk with him in Hebrew, although not fluently, and also in Arabic, and was pleased to hear accounts of the Jews residing at Paris and Germany. He promised to introduce me to the three presidents of the three synagogues at Gibraltar, that they might shew me their synagogues. Jonas, a young Jew of Gibraltar, came to Dr. Parker's, and argued with me an hour and a half; he explained Genesis xlix. 10, in the following manner: “Prosperity and happiness shall not depart from Judah, until Shiloh the Messiah comes.” And he argued that there is much wealth and prosperity to be met with among the Jews, especially at Gibraltar, and other parts of the East. What he brought forth was quite nonsense. I offered him a New Testament, but he answerswered me that he had one. Not one Jew at Gibraltar came to me to ask money; to defend their religion is their only object. I gave him a copy of the Psalter, and Tremellius’s Catechism. JMay 25.-I again visited Rabbi Nahman of Jerusalem. After we had talked for half an hour about the East, other Jews entered the room, and among them the above mentioned Jonas. Rabbi. I have heard that your intention is to convert the Jews at Jerusalem. You must know, as a man of sense, that we are attached to our religion, and that it is quite impossible for you to convert a Jew. I. It is true, I cannot convert, God only can convert; but I shall tell every one, that I, who was once a Jew, * a Christian, and believe that Jesus is the MlesSlail.

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